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my 2 year old Red sided male EJ has started to be a bit nasty
especially towards me ! and seems to be getting territorial with his cage.
when i go out and have to put him in his cage he tries to turn around and bite me and then goes agro at his toy or whatever is closest and growls .
He is ok when its bedtime .
When i let him out in the mornings i have to wait till he is up on top of his cage so i can clean it out even then he will come down and lunge and growl at me .A few times i have called his bluff and he has bit me very hard .
When i tell him "no" he bites a toy and growls and its like a stand off. when i walk off he growls at me .
If i am on the lounge with food thats a different story he is my friend then ...
When i put his food up the top i have to put my hands under the bowl or he will bite me then he grabs the bowl throws it and growls
is this hormones ,i raised ej from just 10 days and he has never been nasty...
Paula
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by flowerpower23566 » Fri Sep 29, 2006 11:40 pm
cheers paula
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EJ
by MaryNat » Sun Oct 01, 2006 12:44 pm
Hi!
It sounds like EJ has reached adolescence. Have you seen our post at the PDR (Polly's Desk Reference) forum of this message board regarding male Eclectus hormonal behavior? You may find that post helpful as well as the post about foraging toys and the one about living with hormonal Eclectus-distraction. These offer tips for distracting your Eclectus from courtship and breeding activities that he may soon develop, and also offer some ideas for keeping him busy with foraging activities to help him expend some of his need to forage and find food for a mate and chicks.
EJ is not being nasty...I think when you read the posts mentioned above, you will see that he is becoming possessive, defensive and territorial during his first breeding cycle....also, this time of year is a very very strong breeding cycle for many Eclectus, so your little EJ is becoming a man during what for many Eclectus is the strongest of all the cycles during the year.
Please review the posts and let us know if you have any questions...please be patient...your baby is becoming a man. If you are patient, there is every liklihood that you will learn how to manage his courtship cycles very successfully, and he will continue to be your affectionate friend.
Al and Mary
Cabby and Chardy (SIE)
It sounds like EJ has reached adolescence. Have you seen our post at the PDR (Polly's Desk Reference) forum of this message board regarding male Eclectus hormonal behavior? You may find that post helpful as well as the post about foraging toys and the one about living with hormonal Eclectus-distraction. These offer tips for distracting your Eclectus from courtship and breeding activities that he may soon develop, and also offer some ideas for keeping him busy with foraging activities to help him expend some of his need to forage and find food for a mate and chicks.
EJ is not being nasty...I think when you read the posts mentioned above, you will see that he is becoming possessive, defensive and territorial during his first breeding cycle....also, this time of year is a very very strong breeding cycle for many Eclectus, so your little EJ is becoming a man during what for many Eclectus is the strongest of all the cycles during the year.
Please review the posts and let us know if you have any questions...please be patient...your baby is becoming a man. If you are patient, there is every liklihood that you will learn how to manage his courtship cycles very successfully, and he will continue to be your affectionate friend.
Al and Mary
Cabby and Chardy (SIE)
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by MoreGooder » Sun Oct 01, 2006 2:24 pm
Once an Ekky reaches adulthood, will he be hormonal often? Does it start to calm down and mellow out? I know for my Severe he was a really stinker from 2 to 3 years old, then he returned to being an affectionate pet. Not so for Ekkies?
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adulthood for Eclectus
by MaryNat » Sun Oct 01, 2006 4:48 pm
Hi!
Eclectus reach adolescence at about 24-36 months for small subspecies and as late as four to five years for the large subspecies. This is a generality, and individual birds may reach adolescence earlier or later than this.
As far as how many cycles, etc....small subspecies seem to have four a year...two strong and two weak, IMHO. Larger subspecies seem to have three. But for every subspecies, this time of year, whether in the Northern or Southern hemisphere, is a very strong cycle. Again, not all Eclectus will have their strongest cycle this time of year, but many do.
As far as how do they behave....
Alot of it has to do with the individual bird, of course. There are some Eclectus who have very pronounced hormone cycles and others might just become a bit cage territorial and defensive for a few days several times a year. I know some people whose fully mature male Eclectus show virtually no signs at all.
One thing that is important, IMHO, is to learn all you can about how male Eclectus CAN behave when they are hormonal, and the approximate age that is most likely to be the onset of adolescence for your Eclectus' subspecies or, if the subspecies is not known, for the size of the bird (smaller birds - younger; larger birds- later). Once you know what kinds of behaviors can happen with hormones, the better prepared you will be to manage them very quickly. In other words, if you are aware, and if your boy starts to behave strangely - aggressive, cranky, defensive, etc - then you will have some ideas of what to do...for example, do not behave impatiently in return, as it only escalates the behavior...diffuse it with a quiet, patient response.
If a person behaves with anger or impatience, the bird perceives that response as a challenge and "gears up" to defend himself/his cage/his mate/his territory. People who are not aware of this kind of behavior may accidentally make it worse. But by learning about it, you can, in many cases, recognize it and make it minimal.
There are two answers to your question...one is, TO ME, it seemed that after the first few hormonal cycles, our male SI's behavior did start to mellow out. I think about human adolescence and how a teenager can be a loving child one minute and an angrily independent and rebellious person the next with very little transition. But when the young person matures, that kind of behavior "mellows out" and the person is a very even tempered adult. So answer number one is Yes, they mellow out.
The second answer is...they mellow out, but we also learn. We learn what to do, how to manage and how to handle...how to recognize the signs that our individual Eclectus is entering, is in, and is going out of a hormone cycle.
So between the rising of our learning curve and the mellowing of the bird as he matures, hormonal behavior in males is often very predictable and very manageable.
For readers with females, female behavior is also predictable and manageable, but IMHO, their instincts are more - how shall I say - urgent. Females are very much the "business end" of the Eclectus breeding partnership - they find the nest (a girl without a nest cannot have babies - since she wants to have babies, she has to find a nest...and she will be very insistent about doing that during strong hormone cycles), they have to prepare the nest, they have to call to advertise that they have a suitable nest (to attract males and to discourage competing females), they defend the interior of the nest and babies from other birds who want to occupy it, from raptors, from reptiles and from rats....so they can be very urgent and insistent in their hormonal behavior...but it, too varies by individual (some females are only a little bit cranky and reluctant to come out of their cages for a few days four times a year, and others do alot of nest seeking and calling). The behavior of the females also becomes easier to manage due to "mellowing out" and the increased experience of the owner.
The very good news is...here at this message board we have alot of information about hormonal behavior, ways to prepare for it, identify it and manage it!
There is every reason to expect that your relationship with your Eclectus as a baby, juvenile, adolescent and adult will remain affectionate and wonderful for you and your bird!
We hope this information was of some help to you.
Al and Mary
Cabby and Chardy (SIE)
Eclectus reach adolescence at about 24-36 months for small subspecies and as late as four to five years for the large subspecies. This is a generality, and individual birds may reach adolescence earlier or later than this.
As far as how many cycles, etc....small subspecies seem to have four a year...two strong and two weak, IMHO. Larger subspecies seem to have three. But for every subspecies, this time of year, whether in the Northern or Southern hemisphere, is a very strong cycle. Again, not all Eclectus will have their strongest cycle this time of year, but many do.
As far as how do they behave....
Alot of it has to do with the individual bird, of course. There are some Eclectus who have very pronounced hormone cycles and others might just become a bit cage territorial and defensive for a few days several times a year. I know some people whose fully mature male Eclectus show virtually no signs at all.
One thing that is important, IMHO, is to learn all you can about how male Eclectus CAN behave when they are hormonal, and the approximate age that is most likely to be the onset of adolescence for your Eclectus' subspecies or, if the subspecies is not known, for the size of the bird (smaller birds - younger; larger birds- later). Once you know what kinds of behaviors can happen with hormones, the better prepared you will be to manage them very quickly. In other words, if you are aware, and if your boy starts to behave strangely - aggressive, cranky, defensive, etc - then you will have some ideas of what to do...for example, do not behave impatiently in return, as it only escalates the behavior...diffuse it with a quiet, patient response.
If a person behaves with anger or impatience, the bird perceives that response as a challenge and "gears up" to defend himself/his cage/his mate/his territory. People who are not aware of this kind of behavior may accidentally make it worse. But by learning about it, you can, in many cases, recognize it and make it minimal.
There are two answers to your question...one is, TO ME, it seemed that after the first few hormonal cycles, our male SI's behavior did start to mellow out. I think about human adolescence and how a teenager can be a loving child one minute and an angrily independent and rebellious person the next with very little transition. But when the young person matures, that kind of behavior "mellows out" and the person is a very even tempered adult. So answer number one is Yes, they mellow out.
The second answer is...they mellow out, but we also learn. We learn what to do, how to manage and how to handle...how to recognize the signs that our individual Eclectus is entering, is in, and is going out of a hormone cycle.
So between the rising of our learning curve and the mellowing of the bird as he matures, hormonal behavior in males is often very predictable and very manageable.
For readers with females, female behavior is also predictable and manageable, but IMHO, their instincts are more - how shall I say - urgent. Females are very much the "business end" of the Eclectus breeding partnership - they find the nest (a girl without a nest cannot have babies - since she wants to have babies, she has to find a nest...and she will be very insistent about doing that during strong hormone cycles), they have to prepare the nest, they have to call to advertise that they have a suitable nest (to attract males and to discourage competing females), they defend the interior of the nest and babies from other birds who want to occupy it, from raptors, from reptiles and from rats....so they can be very urgent and insistent in their hormonal behavior...but it, too varies by individual (some females are only a little bit cranky and reluctant to come out of their cages for a few days four times a year, and others do alot of nest seeking and calling). The behavior of the females also becomes easier to manage due to "mellowing out" and the increased experience of the owner.
The very good news is...here at this message board we have alot of information about hormonal behavior, ways to prepare for it, identify it and manage it!
There is every reason to expect that your relationship with your Eclectus as a baby, juvenile, adolescent and adult will remain affectionate and wonderful for you and your bird!
We hope this information was of some help to you.
Al and Mary
Cabby and Chardy (SIE)
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by MoreGooder » Sun Oct 01, 2006 5:05 pm
Al and Mary,
Your posts, their details and the care with which you write them, are truly a benefit to this community. That was so well written, I suggest it be tacked onto the end of both the Female and Male Hormal Behavior threads of the PDR.
Your posts, their details and the care with which you write them, are truly a benefit to this community. That was so well written, I suggest it be tacked onto the end of both the Female and Male Hormal Behavior threads of the PDR.
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getting nasty
by flowerpower23566 » Fri Oct 06, 2006 9:41 pm
Thank you all for your replies .
I am sure EJ stills loves me and is not being nasty just a few of his bites have been pretty full on , he is definately becoming territorial with his cage and i have to allow him to come out and climb up on his cage before i can clean it ,i think he thinks i am going to quickly remove the soiled paper and close the door again before he can get out .
So now i open his cage and walk away so he dosent think this way and ...no problem .
I will post a pic i made him a fab new play stand ...my son said it looks like it is for a monkey , it has lots of toys and i put fresh branches and flowers on it . He is a bit unsure but will still gaurd it
He is one spoilt bird
Thanks again
Paula
I am sure EJ stills loves me and is not being nasty just a few of his bites have been pretty full on , he is definately becoming territorial with his cage and i have to allow him to come out and climb up on his cage before i can clean it ,i think he thinks i am going to quickly remove the soiled paper and close the door again before he can get out .
So now i open his cage and walk away so he dosent think this way and ...no problem .
I will post a pic i made him a fab new play stand ...my son said it looks like it is for a monkey , it has lots of toys and i put fresh branches and flowers on it . He is a bit unsure but will still gaurd it
He is one spoilt bird
Thanks again
Paula
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by Cathy » Mon Oct 09, 2006 9:41 pm
My ekkie, Buddy, starting to doo the exact same things around age two.
I suspected it was hormones but I became afraid to touch him after a couple of sudden bites. He also bit my daughter..very unusual for a very loving bird. He was still kind to my husband just growly and threatening to me.
He would come close to my fingers and say,"ouch, ouch,!"
I just discontued contact which broke my heart..and I was afraid too. I still spoke to him and sang to him every day. Finally after a long while, I felt a surge of authority begin to rise with in myself again and started reaching for him. The biting has now stopped and he wants to be with me always. He did test my fingers holding them firmly but not biting and saying,"Ow??", but I just would say. NO Ow!!, and now we are happy again!!
I suspected it was hormones but I became afraid to touch him after a couple of sudden bites. He also bit my daughter..very unusual for a very loving bird. He was still kind to my husband just growly and threatening to me.
He would come close to my fingers and say,"ouch, ouch,!"
I just discontued contact which broke my heart..and I was afraid too. I still spoke to him and sang to him every day. Finally after a long while, I felt a surge of authority begin to rise with in myself again and started reaching for him. The biting has now stopped and he wants to be with me always. He did test my fingers holding them firmly but not biting and saying,"Ow??", but I just would say. NO Ow!!, and now we are happy again!!
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getting nasty
by flowerpower23566 » Tue Oct 10, 2006 11:22 pm
I am glad to hear others going through the same thing and coming good , as i have been getting some nasty bites lately but its not just me now its who ever dares go near him.
Even as i am letting him out in the morning i am greeed with a lunge and a growl and he has even attacked my head while i was cleaning his cage .
Ungrateful little turd!!!
When he is on the kitchen bench and i am preparing dinner or the birds meals he runs at me growling and even as i walk past his goes for me .
He will come to me when i am on the lounge and kisses me andis fine but look as though i am going to put him in his cage and he will bite ...
I miss my lovable little friend!!!
Paula
Even as i am letting him out in the morning i am greeed with a lunge and a growl and he has even attacked my head while i was cleaning his cage .
Ungrateful little turd!!!
When he is on the kitchen bench and i am preparing dinner or the birds meals he runs at me growling and even as i walk past his goes for me .
He will come to me when i am on the lounge and kisses me andis fine but look as though i am going to put him in his cage and he will bite ...
I miss my lovable little friend!!!
Paula
cheers paula
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HEEELLPP!!!!!!
by Meleckie » Wed Oct 11, 2006 7:12 pm
Hi there, I live in Australia and my nearly 4yr male has been exactly like this for nearly a year. Cleaning his cage is a nightmare and he growls and lunges at me if i sit too close to my partner and vice versa.
I have tried everything and he still does it. Somedays aren't so bad but it is getting to the point where we are a bit nervous of him.
He continually tries to mate with our and our friends hands. I do not support this behaviour.
He takes chunks out of hands, lips, faces and his favourite - my ears!!
It seriously has been like this since last January and is getting worse as time goes on.
Please tell me this is going to end soon. We haven't even had a solid weeks break.
I have tried everything and he still does it. Somedays aren't so bad but it is getting to the point where we are a bit nervous of him.
He continually tries to mate with our and our friends hands. I do not support this behaviour.
He takes chunks out of hands, lips, faces and his favourite - my ears!!
It seriously has been like this since last January and is getting worse as time goes on.
Please tell me this is going to end soon. We haven't even had a solid weeks break.
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Hormonal Male Eclectus
by MaryNat » Sun Oct 15, 2006 2:37 pm
Hi!
You may find the Living with Hormonal Eclectus - DISTRACTION post at the PDR (Polly's Desk Reference) section of the message board to be of help.
As far as biting ears - This seems to not be uncommon in hormonal males....noses are another "place of interest" on the human anatomy. We do not know the reasons why, especially since we cannot see what we look like in a bird's eyes. Do our ear holes look like mouths to feed? Do our noses remind the males of beaks to hold onto (which is what males do when stepping onto the female's back to mate)...unknown. But not uncommon.
I make sure our male Eclectus does not sit on my shoulder when he is hormonal...hold your boy on your hand at a level between your heart and chin. This can help reduce the stimulation that noses and ears somehow seem to have.
Ensure you/no one who handles him do not pet him down his back or kiss him with buzzy kisses on his beak. Stroking and buzzy kisses seem to stimulate courtship behavior.
Foraging toys and additional activity such as flapping and climbing can help expend the energy the hormonal boys seem to have (possibly to enable them to do the extra work necessary to feed a mate and chicks in Nature) may help, as may ensureing his food includes lots of fresh foods and leafy greens - food he has to "work" to eat and that may signal that breeding is over.
As far as attacking your head and hands when servicing his cage...
As the PDR post regarding male Eclectus hormonal behavior outlines, this is not uncommon. Try moving to a different place in the cage, or try placing a little dish of a favorite treat or clean, rinsed through, damp warm washcloth on top of his cage for him to play with for a few minutes while you service his cage. Try changing the cage papers while he is inside his cage with the door closed, then let him out for the treat/damp cloth while you wipe down the perches, bars and grate. Speaking gently to him when he is displaying defending behaviors can help to dissipate his need to protect his space more quickly (at that given time) and allow him to be distracted by the treat or interesting toy.
Also, check your washing cloth - try using plain, neutral colored cloths to wash the cage...patterns may appear to him as snakes or lizards, which are natural predators of Eclectus and may place his defensive instincts on high alert. Neutral, plain colors can help to reduce this reaction.
We hope this information is of help to you.
Al and Mary
Cabby and Chardy (SIE)
You may find the Living with Hormonal Eclectus - DISTRACTION post at the PDR (Polly's Desk Reference) section of the message board to be of help.
As far as biting ears - This seems to not be uncommon in hormonal males....noses are another "place of interest" on the human anatomy. We do not know the reasons why, especially since we cannot see what we look like in a bird's eyes. Do our ear holes look like mouths to feed? Do our noses remind the males of beaks to hold onto (which is what males do when stepping onto the female's back to mate)...unknown. But not uncommon.
I make sure our male Eclectus does not sit on my shoulder when he is hormonal...hold your boy on your hand at a level between your heart and chin. This can help reduce the stimulation that noses and ears somehow seem to have.
Ensure you/no one who handles him do not pet him down his back or kiss him with buzzy kisses on his beak. Stroking and buzzy kisses seem to stimulate courtship behavior.
Foraging toys and additional activity such as flapping and climbing can help expend the energy the hormonal boys seem to have (possibly to enable them to do the extra work necessary to feed a mate and chicks in Nature) may help, as may ensureing his food includes lots of fresh foods and leafy greens - food he has to "work" to eat and that may signal that breeding is over.
As far as attacking your head and hands when servicing his cage...
As the PDR post regarding male Eclectus hormonal behavior outlines, this is not uncommon. Try moving to a different place in the cage, or try placing a little dish of a favorite treat or clean, rinsed through, damp warm washcloth on top of his cage for him to play with for a few minutes while you service his cage. Try changing the cage papers while he is inside his cage with the door closed, then let him out for the treat/damp cloth while you wipe down the perches, bars and grate. Speaking gently to him when he is displaying defending behaviors can help to dissipate his need to protect his space more quickly (at that given time) and allow him to be distracted by the treat or interesting toy.
Also, check your washing cloth - try using plain, neutral colored cloths to wash the cage...patterns may appear to him as snakes or lizards, which are natural predators of Eclectus and may place his defensive instincts on high alert. Neutral, plain colors can help to reduce this reaction.
We hope this information is of help to you.
Al and Mary
Cabby and Chardy (SIE)
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getting nasty
by flowerpower23566 » Mon Oct 16, 2006 10:16 pm
Mary and Al
Just wanted to post and say thank you for your suggestions on dealing with EJ ' hormonal behavour , it has improved GREATLY.
He is no longer guarding the kitchen bench and there is no growling as he comes out of his cage .
At times when i take him from my shoulder and place him on his cage or play stand he lets out a loud squawk to let me know its not what he wanted but thats about it .
I gave him his own clean cloth as he was obsessed with the kitchen one and when i saw he was becoming aggressive i rinsed his cloth and gave it to him and he calmed down ... he LOVES it , it is his fav thing on his playstand and before he had it he wouldnt even stay on the stand , though it is still new to him but now he spends hours on it ..
I have found as i am letting him out of his cage a happy voice saying "good morning " and "come see what i have made you" is working wonders and the same when i have to put him back into his cage a happy "good boy" as i am putting him in is resulting in NO biting .
Thank you again !!
Your advice here is both invaluable and appreciated
Just wanted to post and say thank you for your suggestions on dealing with EJ ' hormonal behavour , it has improved GREATLY.
He is no longer guarding the kitchen bench and there is no growling as he comes out of his cage .
At times when i take him from my shoulder and place him on his cage or play stand he lets out a loud squawk to let me know its not what he wanted but thats about it .
I gave him his own clean cloth as he was obsessed with the kitchen one and when i saw he was becoming aggressive i rinsed his cloth and gave it to him and he calmed down ... he LOVES it , it is his fav thing on his playstand and before he had it he wouldnt even stay on the stand , though it is still new to him but now he spends hours on it ..
I have found as i am letting him out of his cage a happy voice saying "good morning " and "come see what i have made you" is working wonders and the same when i have to put him back into his cage a happy "good boy" as i am putting him in is resulting in NO biting .
Thank you again !!
Your advice here is both invaluable and appreciated
cheers paula
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Re: getting nasty
by Cathy » Tue Oct 17, 2006 10:51 am
[quote="flowerpower23566"]Mary and Al
I gave him his own clean cloth as he was obsessed with the kitchen one and when i saw he was becoming aggressive i rinsed his cloth and gave it to him and he calmed down ... he LOVES it [/quote
Thats too cute...reminds me of a kid and his "blankie".
So glad EJ has calmed down, We often use "good boy" as well and always "good morning".
If I don't spend enough time talking to Buddy, he will also let out a squawk.
Has EJ started to become a "watch bird" yet?? Buddy has started with the loud continuous squawking when a stanger enters the house
I gave him his own clean cloth as he was obsessed with the kitchen one and when i saw he was becoming aggressive i rinsed his cloth and gave it to him and he calmed down ... he LOVES it [/quote
Thats too cute...reminds me of a kid and his "blankie".
So glad EJ has calmed down, We often use "good boy" as well and always "good morning".
If I don't spend enough time talking to Buddy, he will also let out a squawk.
Has EJ started to become a "watch bird" yet?? Buddy has started with the loud continuous squawking when a stanger enters the house
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getting nasty
by flowerpower23566 » Tue Oct 17, 2006 6:41 pm
Hi Cathy
It is a bit like a blankie thing isnt it , he would not stay on the new play stand i made him for more than two minutes it was like putting a child on a ride they are unsure of and they reach out for you to take them off .
Now i put his cloth at the top and as he chews it he drops it onto branches below and he retrieves it climbing all over the place . Its great to watch him up there with confidence now . And he is still being very well behaved .
He does let out a squawk when people come in especially here at work i bring EJ to work everyday. When i return from the bathroom he allways says a big happy HELLLLO !!!
Here is a pic of EJ on my computer at work, it was winter so he was a bit fluffed up ..
Paula [/img]
It is a bit like a blankie thing isnt it , he would not stay on the new play stand i made him for more than two minutes it was like putting a child on a ride they are unsure of and they reach out for you to take them off .
Now i put his cloth at the top and as he chews it he drops it onto branches below and he retrieves it climbing all over the place . Its great to watch him up there with confidence now . And he is still being very well behaved .
He does let out a squawk when people come in especially here at work i bring EJ to work everyday. When i return from the bathroom he allways says a big happy HELLLLO !!!
Here is a pic of EJ on my computer at work, it was winter so he was a bit fluffed up ..
Paula [/img]
cheers paula
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by Cathy » Tue Oct 17, 2006 7:02 pm
LOL..he looks just like my Buddy 
They are just so smart and delighful to watch. Probably, Buddy loves climbing around his cage in and out more than any toy..he makes up games..it beats watching TV..sometimes..lol..
We just have to get used to those hormonal times.
They are just so smart and delighful to watch. Probably, Buddy loves climbing around his cage in and out more than any toy..he makes up games..it beats watching TV..sometimes..lol..
We just have to get used to those hormonal times.
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